I've been taking elderberry tincture for some time now - I find it seems to give me amazing energy. But I'm wondering if it's OK to just keep tkaing it as an ongoing thing? anyone know if there's any problem with loongterm use? I want to start making my own elderberry tincture but don't know if there's a specific kind of elderberry to use? I have finally at last started a medicinal herb garden for myself, and want to plant an elderberry bush, but want to make sure I get a variety that is efficacious medicinally speaking. Same for sage. There are so manhy varieties! And I am not a botanist. I planted several kinds of sage (mexican, spanish) and then realized I don't know what kinds do what. Anyone got any info on t5hat?
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Re: elderberry and sage
Mon, September 3, 2007 - 12:19 PMah, two of my most used and loved herbs!!!
elderberry can give an amazing amount of energy, Donald Yance, an herbalist and cancer specialist, considers it to be a superior adaptogen, and several studies have been done on it's effect on modulating stress (on fighter jet pilots if I recall correctly, I'll have to dig the study up again).
I use it for brain fog, immune modulation, exhaustion, stress and myriad other things.... I have taken it and prescribed it long term as a tonic to others, including children, with no problem at all. What kind of dosage are you using? The infusion is also lovely and very nutritive and tasty.
Any of the blue or black berried Elders should work just fine, most people advise to stay away from the red berries.
And don't forget about the amazing wound healing powers of the leaves, and magic of the flowers too! A truly magical plant.
The Sages are another one of my closest allies, and I have worked literally dozens of species at this point. For most uses of Sage the well-known culinary Sage, (Salvia officinale) is lovely.... If you feel called to more than one species though, by all means go for it. I have yet to meet a non-medicinal Sage. There's another long post I did on the varieties of Sage on Tribe somewhere that I'll try to find and give you the link as I think you'll find it useful.
Other Sages I'm particularly fond of medicinally are: S. greggii, S. azurea, S. subincisa, S. apiana and S. reflexa it does depend greatly on where you're living because many Sages are sunbelt type plants and prefer lots of warmth... but Garden Sage seems to do well nearly anywhere. And was there a particular way you were most interested in using Sage for? Because that could determine which Sage you might want as well. -
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Re: elderberry and sage
Wed, September 5, 2007 - 4:59 PMI live in elderberry land I think. I want to begin using elderberry as an infusion, but all the recipes I see call for it being used fresh. How can I make tinctures or infusions with berries After the growing season is over. For example, can I dry them and store them?
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Re: elderberry and sage
Wed, September 5, 2007 - 6:54 PMhi beth... you certainly can use dried elderberries for nearly anything that calls for elderberry, you just use less... I answered your post in the Herbalists tribe too. -
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Re: elderberry and sage
Fri, September 28, 2007 - 10:44 AMcan sage be tinctured? What can it be used for?
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Re: elderberry and sage
Tue, October 23, 2007 - 6:23 PMMoonica,
Yes Sage can be tinctured, it just depends on what you want to use it for and what kind of Sage you're working with. The super aromatic, resinous sages like White Sage (S. apiana) are best extracted in alcohol because they're not very water soluble.
Common Sage makes a good tea, a good tincture and a good oil... The tea is probably a more effective diaphoretic and digestive tonic.
I know there's Elderberries near the Mt Hood area, but I thought there were plentiful Elderberries throughout the NW, look near creeks and in deciduous woods probably (don't know that for sure in your area though).
Sage can be used for about a million things, as a digestive tonic, a nerve tonic, a diaphoretic, a wound healer and many other things. If you go to my blog at bearmedicineherbals.com/blog and put sage or salvia in the search box you'll get lots and lots of info.
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Re: elderberry and sage
Sun, October 7, 2007 - 5:39 PMTinctures are best prepared from fresh materials in most cases. Drying and time degrade many of the essential compounds which the tincture extracts from the material.
The tincture itself tends to preserve the compounds extracted in the tincture making process.
Infusions can still be done with dried berries but again you will see a reduced level of effectiveness but it's better than nothing. -
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Re: elderberry and sage
Tue, October 23, 2007 - 6:15 PMTinctures made from dried plants can be very effective, it simply depends on the plant, where you're getting it and how long it's been dried.
Most berries, barks and roots remain strong and stable for quite a while. Dried Elderberries bought from Mt Rose or a grower will make an effective and tasty tincture. I know this from repeated experience.
Aromatics such as Sage or Mint makes good tinctures as long as they're still aromatic. The action of the aromatic plant will usually directly correspond to the strength of the fragrance.
I do not see a reduced level of effectiveness using properly dried elderberries in contrast to fresh. They're both remarkably effective. Elderberries are amazingly stable, and I've seen tinctures made of three year old dried berries work just as well as fresh plant tinctures.
This isn't so with delicate flowers, but again, it depends on the plant and context.
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